Testimonials
What our members
have to say:
If you think you would like some excellent instruction in your wing shooting, whether it be clays or birds. I can highly recommend coming to one of the OSP classes.
VIDEO testimonials
Curt L.
California
I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and feel that I have added many new arrows to my quiver of shooting knowledge. The kind of knowledge that makes sense and is easy to remember and apply and hopefully improve my future scores, even at my advanced age. Gil’s humor had me in stitches both days and in combination with his teaching skill left not a dull or boring moment.
Randal Z.
Kansas
I didn’t suddenly become a great shooter, I just applied what you show in the videos and have become much more consistent. Since we first talked, I have been averaging 22 birds across all of my rounds of shooting. Thanks again for all of your help and I look forward to the in-person class in April
Kathryn M.
New York
Holy Smokes !!!! This clinic was better than I could ever have imagined. Gil and Vicki are FANTASTIC instructors and people. I am already thinking about a return trip or other way I can continue my training with them. Join them for one of the two day clinics and I assure you that you WILL NOT be disappointed!!!
Phil K.
Texas
You won’t find a couple of instructors more passionate about Sporting Clay.
Bill R.
Tennessee
Spoke with you on the phone while you were cooking, and it was the best time I have spent going over shooting. I did the 3-bullet drill until my arms fell off. Left-to-rights are no longer a problem, and I picked up: match the speed of the target and pull the trigger. Well, this past weekend, I shot the Gamaliel Cup in Nashville with the big boys.
Ross M
Utah
We are starting our club round robin trap shoot.
50 clays a week for 3 weeks. Then wet are handicapped into squads for the final 50. Today was week 1. On the way to the club I read today’s email, it totally got me in the correct frame of mind! Shot a 48!
Thank you!
Dan R.
Ohio
I took a lesson with Brian Ash and it was the best thing I had ever done for shooting. I was always worried about eye dominance since I am left eyed dominant and shoot right handed. Within the first two hours he asked me how my eye dominance was and what he had taught me. I no longer had that issue. I can’t wait to take my next lesson, I might have to leave Ohio and go to Texas just for a lesson.
Carl P.
Washington
The program and presentation by Gil and Vicki is terrific. It is NOT a slideshow and lecture of “tips and tricks“. It is based on a programmatic approach to every step that occurs when a shot is taken. Their teaching techniques are based on how adults actually learn a new skill. The graphics make is very clear how their techniques work and are easy to follow and the hands-on instruction is worth every dollar and hour I invested. Did you ever wonder whether and why your shot was over, under, ahead or behind? You will find out!
Kenneth T.
Connecticut
Great instruction from the OSP crew! Clay target shooting simplified with common sense methods. Definitely will be back again and pass along to more friends! Thanks again for a great experience.
What our members
have to say:
If you think you would like some excellent instruction in your wing shooting, whether it be clays or birds. I can highly recommend coming to one of the OSP classes.
VIDEO testimonials
Kenneth T.
Connecticut
Great instruction from the OSP crew! Clay target shooting simplified with common sense methods. Definitely will be back again and pass along to more friends! Thanks again for a great experience.
Curt L.
California
I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and feel that I have added many new arrows to my quiver of shooting knowledge. The kind of knowledge that makes sense and is easy to remember and apply and hopefully improve my future scores, even at my advanced age. Gil’s humor had me in stitches both days and in combination with his teaching skill left not a dull or boring moment.
Randal Z.
Kansas
I didn’t suddenly become a great shooter, I just applied what you show in the videos and have become much more consistent. Since we first talked, I have been averaging 22 birds across all of my rounds of shooting. Thanks again for all of your help and I look forward to the in-person class in
April
Kathryn M.
New York
Phil K.
Texas
You won’t find a couple of instructors more passionate about Sporting Clay.
Bill R.
Tennessee
Spoke with you on the phone while you were cooking, and it was the best time I have spent going over shooting. I did the 3-bullet drill until my arms fell off. Left-to-rights are no longer a problem, and I picked up: match the speed of the target and pull the trigger. Well, this past weekend, I shot the Gamaliel Cup in Nashville with the big boys.
John M.
Ross M
Utah
We are starting our club round robin trap shoot.
50 clays a week for 3 weeks. Then wet are handicapped into squads for the final 50. Today was week 1. On the way to the club I read today’s email, it totally got me in the correct frame of mind! Shot a 48!
Thank you!
Dan R.
Ohio
I took a lesson with Brian Ash and it was the best thing I had ever done for shooting. I was always worried about eye dominance since I am left eyed dominant and shoot right handed. Within the first two hours he asked me how my eye dominance was and what he had taught me. I no longer had that issue. I can’t wait to take my next lesson, I might have to leave Ohio and go to Texas just for a lesson.
Carl P.
Washington
The program and presentation by Gil and Vicki is terrific. It is NOT a slideshow and lecture of “tips and tricks“. It is based on a programmatic approach to every step that occurs when a shot is taken. Their teaching techniques are based on how adults actually learn a new skill. The graphics make is very clear how their techniques work and are easy to follow and the hands-on instruction is worth every dollar and hour I invested. Did you ever wonder whether and why your shot was over, under, ahead or behind? You will find out!
Hector Castillo
Let me start off by saying that I would definitely recommend going through this course at any skill level. It is a must for any novice shotgun shooter and experts alike can benefit from this. Throughout the day here at the school I saw my game improve drastically. For me that means shooting less than 30% to 60% I would say. I was having too much fun and just taking in the moment I didn’t have time to really keep track so it may have been better.
What was the best part is how they focus on the individual and how they treat everyone to their skill level. Every time you step up to shoot a different target it’s just you and the instructor one on one. My experience was great and very satisfying. I saw shooter with little to no experience gain so much in the class and confidence through breaking targets just climb and climb.
I say all this to get this across, the instructor is not going to hold the gun for you and push you to the target he cannot make the trigger pull for you and he cannot change you, if you go here know that they have a very good training method and a good training syllabus but you have to make the change and commitment from the homework to listening and being able to execute. I will end with this once you see what they want you to see in the sight picture your life as a shotgun shooter will change for ever. Forget what your grandad and dad told you was true about the shooting a shotguns and take this course and be the best version of yourself. Brian our instructor was a great individual who started out as a teacher and through the process he became a family, he’s just that kind of person. These instructors care about their students and their success in this great sport.
Tim D.
Hello all, I’m Tim and a new shooter of any type effective this summer. I was asked to attend a sporting clays event early summer, used a borrowed pump-action gun with an 18″ barrel, and was hooked immediately. The folks who took me in are fantastic.
However, knowing I am a new shooter I wanted to learn quickly and not ingrain bad habits too firmly. I attended the Milford Hills 2-day clinic this September and shot with both Vicki and Gil. I thought I’d document a few thoughts and experiences as I adopt to shooting and this method in particular.
First: I discovered Gil’s video on Trap hold points and followed those for the trap team and season with the folks who welcomed me in to their team. The Gil Trap videos were helpful for me to figure out where to put the gun and where to look at a trap house. From those videos, I explored more of the material online and found the OSP class coming to Wisconsin. Signed up immediately.
Second: My process of learning OSP may be quite different from many of you on the forum and other shooters I am encountering. It seems many of you have habits that need to be unlearned first (and are written and discussed), whereas I’m newer and only wanted to simplify process for me to get up to speed quickly (which I will document and update below). So much of the coaching hour topics and forum topics seem to be more of a process of elimination of bad habits than simply establishing new ones.
Third: Gun fit…what a process of finding a gun and getting it to work. So many opinions, so much information and opinion and misinformation. As noted above, the $200 pump-action shotgun was taken out of my hands after the first 5 shells on my first day of trap, and an old-timer gave me his lucky Browning 325 to use. What a great gesture and a fun gun to shoot. I purchased a used CZ o/u as a “starter” gun to try to start figuring this all out (shorter LOP, longer LOP, cheek pads, etc.) and finally gave up on it. I’ve since replaced it with a new o/u and got stock extensions to make it fit me as I am a little taller. Gil spent some quality phone time and photo reviews prior to the in-person clinic to get some of these fitting things sorted.
Finally, some abbreviated thoughts on where my development is currently:
1: Keep things simple, keep them repeatable. If it doesn’t seem too relevant right away, I’m not using it as part of my shot routine. I’ll explain more as I go along, but things right now like hold points or complicated pre-shot routines seem cumbersome or unnecessary at this point. Your opinions and my slowly growing body of shot knowledge may alter these. Also, Gil recommended just shooting and practicing singles, so that’s mostly what I’m working on today. Report pairs and True pairs get mixed in with friends, but on my own I’m taking them one-shot-at-a-time.
2: Preshot: Observe the clay flight, first for the break point (find a tree or feature reference to view later). Name the shot out loud (challenge, catch, converge). Then back up to where I can first see the clay (trap or exiting foliage). Set feet, weight up on the lead foot. Load the gun.
3: Quiet Eye: Take a deep breath and let my eyes settle back on the BP. Relax.
4: Initiate: Close gun, soft mount, and swivel head and eyes to the view point (trap or branch). I’ll let the gun find its natural half-way or earlier hold point, I don’t fuss where that might be. Slight pause, initiate challenge move (start moving barrels) and call pull.
5: Follow up: Because I don’t have a huge shot inventory yet, sometimes my not specifically picking a hold point means the clay gets out ahead of the barrel, and I catch up. Sometimes I’m waiting for the clay to get to the moving barrels, which means the hold point was too far out. Correct HP for the next shot. Review the mental lead to make sure it was right and adjust if I didn’t get a good break.
I’m keeping things simple for now; no worrying about a hold point for the gun (I let it find it’s own place), no worrying about too little or too much time when set to call pull (I get ready after the quiet eye and just initiate), I’m not worrying about scores. I go to the course and if I miss some types of crossers or quarters repeatedly, then I’ll grab a box and go do that target again and again to see if I can fix it.
I’ll keep adding to this thread as I discover more, but for now I’m only picked a few items to practice with every shot to keep things simple and repeatable.